Sirhan Sirhan denied parole

The 15th time before a California parole board was not the charm Tuesday for Robert F. Kennedy’s assassin.

Source: Robert Kennedy Killer Sirhan Sirhan Denied Parole — Again – kcentv.com – KCEN HD – Waco, Temple, and Killeen

20 comments

  1. Jordan says:

    And yet the audio recording of the assassination reveals at least 13 shots being fired…

  2. A true travesty of justice was committed against Sirhan Sirhan, who most certainly never hit Robert Kennedy with any of the shots he fired while in an MK trance.

    The real killer, Thane Eugene Cesar was never even investigated.

    That’s life in the National Security State.
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    • Bill Clarke says:

      Willy Whitten
      February 12, 2016 at 1:51 pm

      “A true travesty of justice was committed against Sirhan Sirhan, who most certainly never hit Robert Kennedy with any of the shots he fired while in an MK trance.”

      “The real killer, Thane Eugene Cesar was never even investigated.”

      “That’s life in the National Security State.”

      Willy, I always wondered why they didn’t use a shot gun for the assassination. We use to kill deer at 100 yards with a 12 gauge and double ought. If it will kill a deer then it certainly will kill a man.

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  3. DG Michael says:

    Sirhan is Krazy Kid Oswald redux. Yes, he was there firing away wildy, while Thane Cesar fired the kill shots into RFK, almost at point-blank range. Sirhan was nothing more than the wildman diversion, making everyone look at him while Cesar right behind Kennedy could just fire into the back of his head.

    There was evidence of too many shots and the LAPD hurriedly swept the evidence under the rug, and eventually destroyed it. Only the coroner was able to get to and publish the truth of the murder.

    Besides, do you really think the powers-that-be wanted another Kennedy in the White House?

    • Jordan says:

      One of “their” strongest motivations was RFK’s intent to solve the murder of his brother. I also believe that he had more knowledge than he ever let on, and as POTUS, he could make exceptionally discreet use of such knowledge.

      RFK also created an atmosphere of hope for the future for many people, even outside the U.S., as had JFK. The only U.S. politician to produce such atmosphere to any extent since that time is Bernie Sanders, although it seems to be out of desperation given the state of the world today

      • Tom S. says:

        Bill Clarke,
        If you can support that quote you attribute to LBJ in describing RFK, I’ll approve your comment. I’ve seen an
        intro to the description you quoted, (acting like a….) but it was not a description LBJ assigned to RFK. A third party’s recollection, not in the context of a biography of LBJ won’t persuade.

        Convince me LBJ actually said it, and in what context, example, “he is acting like a….”.

        • Bill Clarke says:

          A fair deal Tom and I’ll sure accept it. I started to delete that section myself for fear you would have to delete it so no problem. Thank you so much for your generous offer.

          I’m pretty sure I don’t have this in my notes so it might take me a while to find it. I’ll also keep an eye out for LBJ calling Bobby “Sonny boy” to Bobby’s face and Bobby calling LBJ “Uncle Corn-pone”. Easy to see how much they hated each other.

        • DG Michael says:

          I don’t know if this will help, but Caro has been writing his LBJ multi-part saga. There are some pretty interesting quotes in there about the LBJ / Kennedy hatred, and I’m sure Caro is documenting the quotes with the appropriate sources needed to verify.

          http://www.nybooks.com/articles/2012/05/24/americas-nastiest-blood-feud/

          • Bill Clarke says:

            DG Michael February 14, 2016 at 7:52 am

            I don’t know if this will help, but Caro has been writing his LBJ multi-part saga. There are some pretty interesting quotes in there about the LBJ / Kennedy hatred, and I’m sure Caro is documenting the quotes with the appropriate sources needed to verify.
            http://www.nybooks.com/articles/2012/05/24/americas-nastiest-blood-feud/
            ________________________________________
            Sure it helps and thanks for posting it. I believe Caro’s work is where I first read about LBJ calling Bobby this vulgar word. The problem is, the quote could be in any of the four volumes and you probably already know each volume can run to a thousand pages or so. And I just don’t think I’m up to reviewing 4,000 pages for a quote that isn’t too important to start with. As America has grown lazy, so have I!

            If I may say a few words about the work of Mr. Caro, I believe the man should be an example to anyone wishing to write on politics and politicians. He shows the good with the bad and he supports his work with references instead of speculation. He does a very good job of letting the chips fall where they may and I don’t think his scholarship can be questioned. I hope the old boy lives to finish his 5 volume; I expect it to be his most interesting. I bought the first book hoping to learn more about LBJ and Vietnam. Now I’ve waited all these years for the fifth volume.

            Of course Caro has his critics because he didn’t cover Johnson killing JFK and he gave LBJ a pass on Madeline Brown and on and on. Personally I see a clear reason why Caro didn’t cover these subjects; they are BS. I have found no BS in Cano’s first 4 volumes. I don’t expect any in his 5th book.

            http://www.nybooks.com/articles/2012/05/24/americas-nastiest-blood-feud/

            Thanks so much for the link. I turned up one of the other cutting remarks LBJ used to make to Bobby’s face: “After years of greeting Bobby as “Sonny Boy” when they passed each other in Senate corridors,”

            I think both men were very disappointing in this common contempt. As they stood on the stage during one of America’s harshest times instead of joining together to help our country they acted like a couple of spoiled boys. Very disappointing.

          • Tom S. says:

            Bill,
            At the risk of revealing how I know obscure details, I traced the quote you seek back to Bobby Baker in a
            book published in 1978, and Schlesinger quoted Baker in his own book, a year later.

            Click Here
            And –
            Click Here

            The bad news is I don’t think Bobby Baker is a reliable source, so…..

          • Bill Clarke says:

            Tom S.
            February 15, 2016 at 1:26 am

            Bill,
            “At the risk of revealing how I know obscure details, I traced the quote you seek back to Bobby Baker in a
            book published in 1978, and Schlesinger quoted Baker in his own book, a year later.”

            https://www.google.com/search?tbm=bks&hl=en&q=%22spoke+of+Robert+Kennedy+in+terms%22+little
            And –
            https://books.google.com/books?id=t9RRAQAAIAAJ&dq=%22spoke+of+Robert+Kennedy+in+terms%22+little&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=terms+%22+little+shit+ass%22
            _______________________________________

            Please don’t tell me how you did this. Knowing secrets can get a man killed but I am damn impressed. I salute your “Black Ops” operation.

            “The bad news is I don’t think Bobby Baker is a reliable source, so…..”

            I agree Tom, I don’t trust Bobby Baker as far as I can throw him. But I don’t trust Schlesinger either.

            Page 3
            He justifiably excoriates the sycophantic courtier Schlesinger, whose histories “repeatedly manipulated and obscured the facts” and whose accounts—“profoundly misleading if not out-and-out deceptive”—were written to serve not scholarship but the Kennedys.
            http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2013/01/the-real-cuban-missile-crisis/309190/
            By Benjamin Schwarz

          • Tom S. says:

            Bill,
            Thank you. Schlesinger was an OSS intel analyst during WWII. I have no particular reason to doubt your appraisal
            of him, but the person you quote, Benjamin Schwarz, is another matter.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Schwarz_%28writer%29
            …..
            He is currently consulting editor at large at Yale University Press[3]and the national editor of The American Conservative magazine.[4] …..

          • “For several years he was a foreign policy analyst at the RAND Corporation, where he researched and wrote on American global strategy, counterinsurgency, counterterrorism, and military doctrine. At RAND Schwarz wrote a widely cited and highly critical assessment of American counterinsurgency doctrine and practice.[10] Schwarz was also a staff member of the Brookings Institution.”~Wiki

            Schwarz is the insider’s insider.
            His is the resumé of a Propagandist, a Public Relations man, a Spin Doctor. His message is a massage__sedation not illumination.
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          • Bill Clarke says:

            Tom S.
            February 15, 2016 at 2:32 am

            Bill,
            Thank you. Schlesinger was an OSS intel analyst during WWII. I have no particular reason to doubt your appraisal of him, but the person you quote, Benjamin Schwarz, is another matter.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Schwarz_%28writer%29
            …..
            He is currently consulting editor at large at Yale University Press[3]and the national editor of The American Conservative magazine.[4] …..

            I am familiar with the history of Schlesinger. I think his good reputation as a historian was well deserved. But then he was captured by the Kennedy family and he fell in love with them. And then his reputation went to hell. He wasn’t the first or last man to throw his reputation away for the Kennedy bunch.

            Benjamin Schwarz I know nothing of and appreciate your intel on him. I do agree with Schwarz that Schlesinger didn’t mind telling a whopper to keep Camelot polished.

  4. Thomas says:

    I believe same approach with Sirhan and Oswald except Sirhan was even more obvious being a shooter. Oswald was tracked beforehand by intelligence agencies and manipulated to be a shooter on Nov 22 but had “help” he never knew about, a trained assassin who would make sure the job got done ie the head shot and maybe more. Oswald was not supposed to leave TSBD alive, hence the need for Ruby. Oswald knew too much, had a history that could dare not be explored in court. Sirhan was a safer choice, a truly out-of-touch “lone nut.” The organizers learned from the Oswald incident, how to hide their tracks more effectively.

  5. Ronnie Wayne says:

    If your going to have this discussion don’t forget the girl in the polka dot dress.

  6. PRESIDENT KENNEDY AND HIS BROTHER ROBERT KENNEDY WERE MURDERED BY THE MILITARY-SECURITY COMPLEX
    Paul Craig Roberts

    Presstitute Media, such as the UK Telegraph, spend a lot of energy debunking exposes of government conspiracies. For example, the thousands of highrise architects, structural engineers, physicists, nano-chemists, demolition experts, first responders, military and civilian pilots, and former government officials who have provided vast evidence that the official story of 9/11 is a made-up fairy tale at odds with all evidence and the laws of physics are dismissed by presstitutes as “conspiracy theorists.”

    Similarly, those, such as James W. Douglass, who have proven beyond all doubt that President John F. Kennedy was not assassinated by Oswald but by his own paranoid anti-communist military-security complex, are dismissed as conspiracy theorists.

    http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/02/13/president-kennedy-and-his-brother-robert-kennedy-were-murdered-by-the-military-security-complex-paul-craig-roberts/
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    • Ronnie Wayne says:

      I saw the Craig Roberts part of his name and thought “Kill Zone?”. Paul Craig Roberts is not the same Craig Roberts. Although he seems to have been marginalized by the MSM for the views he’s developed.
      It also seems the parole board ignored the statement of Sirhan shooting victim Paul Schrade. Some somebody’s with power have been able to keep the Facts out of the MSM about RFK’s assassination for almost 50 years too.

    • Bill Clarke says:

      Willy Whitten
      February 15, 2016 at 11:58 am

      “Similarly, those, such as James W. Douglass, who have proven beyond all doubt that President John F. Kennedy was not assassinated by Oswald but by his own paranoid anti-communist military-security complex, are dismissed as conspiracy theorists.”

      Does Douglass have something new out? Because he damn sure didn’t prove this “beyond all doubt” in “JFK and the Unspeakable”.

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