Comment of the week

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Willy Whitten – March 8

Intrigue, complex and convoluted charades; these are the constructs of covert operations.

There are certain things that cannot be proven, other than accepting the word of a participant in the affair. Prouty was the contact officer that would procure military equipment from the services to make such available to CIA.

That was one of his main jobs as liaison officer between CIA and the services.

McAdams tells us that the ARRB “looked into” these claims, and like all of the “official investigations” dismissed them.

Who am I presenting to? I suppose those with the imagination to grasp the hard realities of this world; in which the some real facts can never be known because they have been successfully concealed, destroyed, or lost by murdering the only witnesses to them.

What is a “military ship”? The real answer is ANY ship the military owns or controls. It doesn’t necessarily mean a ship built by or for the military.

19 thoughts on “Comment of the week”

  1. Le Rouche is a side issue Ronnie,

    The real issue is who are Thomas Malthus, & Georg Hegel.

    Do you know the story of the HMS Beagle? Perhaps the HMS Bounty? Both of these ships were part of the first inventory of the Earth’s resources, a project envisioned and established by Thomas Malthus.
    Charles Darwin was aboard the second journey of the Beagle. Most people have heard of the Mutiny on the Bounty, which was bringing sprouts of the ‘breadfruit’ plant to be tested in the soils of the islands of the South Pacific.

    Read Buckminster Fuller for a great critique of Malthusian theories of resource scarcity.
    . . .
    The Hegelian Dialectic is one of the most crucial issues of grasping the architecture of modern political power.
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    1. Anthony Martin

      In the 21st Century, people still are considering the impact of Population Growth http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20160311-how-many-people-can-our-planet-really-support

      Nations still are fighting over resources and their control.
      http://michaelklare.com “The Race for What’s Left”

      And power brokers meet in closed rooms to plot assasinations across national borders and to provide legasl cover stories.
      http://www.cfr.org/counterterrorism/targeted-killings/p9627

      The only difference between the 18h Century thru modern times are the names of the actors.

      1. “Nations still are fighting over resources and their control.”
        ~Anthony Martin

        Are they really? I would submit that this is global theater, a burlesque designed by those who produce the global theater.

        I would argue that the people still considering the impact of Population Growth, are still duped by the Eugenics movement.

        There is no doubt that power brokers meet in closed rooms to plot assassinations across national borders and to provide legal cover stories. But these power brokers are global in extent and consider “nation states” passe’
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  2. The Malthusian Power Elite
    In the very first chapter, Prouty says the conceptual foundations for his probe of the JFK assassination by providing the reader with an eye-opening profile of an “international power elite,” which has shaped politics for centuries, hiding behind a thick cloak of secrecy. Prouty identifies five leading authors of the “propaganda schemes” that have shaped the thinking and motives of this power elite: John Locke, Thomas Malthus, Charles Darwin, Werner Heisenberg, and G.W.F. Hegel. The “propaganda schemes” developed by these five individuals-whose root$ he traces to the British East India Company-have been: used to justify wars, genocide, racism, colonialism, and the suppression of scientific progress for centuries.
    http://www.larouchepub.com/eiw/public/1992/eirv19n45-19921113/eirv19n45-19921113_055-unique_view_of_jfk_assassination.pdf

    INTRIGUE
    (Sophisticaction)

    There is a critical distinction between raw”data/datum” and “information”.
    . . .
    The term data refers to factual integers, especially that used for analysis and based on reasoning or calculation. Data itself has no meaning, but becomes information when it is interpreted. Information is a collection of facts or data that is communicated.

    Data are the facts or details from which information is derived. Individual pieces of data rarely have inherent meaning in themselves.

    Data — Information — Context
    Meaning.

    Data is raw, unorganized facts that need to be processed. Data can be something simple and seemingly random and useless until it is organized. When data is processed, organized, structured or presented in a given context so as to make it useful, it is called information.

    Whether one likes it or not, what facts mean is to a certain extent, ALWAYS subjective; ultimately a matter of opinion. There is informed opinion, there is uninformed opinion, there is disinformed opinion.

    And opinions may vary.

    http://www.diffen.com/difference/Data_vs_Information
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    1. The “propaganda schemes” developed by these five individuals-whose root$ he traces to the British East India Company-have been: used to justify wars, genocide, racism, colonialism, and the suppression of scientific progress for centuries.
      http://www.larouchepub.com/eiw/public/1992/eirv19n45-19921113/eirv19n45-19921113_055-unique_view_of_jfk_assassination.pdf

      Are you aware you are citing a LaRouche publication?

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Intelligence_Review

      1. “Are you aware you are citing a LaRouche publication?”~McAdams

        Yes. So what?

        This information is not simply Prouty’s opinion, he is speaking to known history – or history known to those who have discarded the baggage of their indoctrination into the modern myths known as “official history”.
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      2. John McAdams
        March 13, 2016 at 11:46 pm

        He cites Prouty extensively so LaRouche isn’t much of a surprise here.

      3. I have read; Mien Kampf, Das Capital, The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, the Old and New Testaments, Taoist theology, the Declaration of Independence, Tragedy & Hope, The Creature From Jekyll Island, the poetry of William Butler Yeats, and The Hobbit.

        Pigeonhole me with that lineup.
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  3. I asked Roy this question, (over the course of two comments) last week.:

    https://jfkfacts.org/assassination/experts/exchange-on-the-bush-did-it-theory/#comment-861396
    Roy W Kornbluth – March 6 …….

    My responses :

    Who are you presenting to, in your mind’s eye?

    Roy,
    The details in my last comment compete with those in yours. They cannot strengthen what you have presented, but what effect does your comment have on the impressions of a reasonable person who reads both of our comments? IOW, do you think your comment enhances the impression of my comment, or of JFKfacts.org, generally? This is the question I have to struggle with at least several times a day…..

    1. Tom S asks:
      “Who are you presenting to, in your mind’s eye?”

      (1) As this forum plainly illustrates, WC fundamentalists desperately defend every little detail of the official theory no matter how absurd or unnecessary. There’s no question that they project a narrow-minded, consensus view of the assassination. Not one of them strays outside the box. Ever. They aren’t persuadable. The only reason to engage them is to make sure they are not the lone voices defining the parameters of the case.

      (2) For some conspiracists, fifty years of microscopic research has created an imaginary world of impossibly convoluted plots involving almost everyone in America including the entire government and MSM. [It is correct to say the cover-up has been monolithic.] I suggest conspiracists review Fonzi’s ‘The Last Investigation’, to understand the simplicity of an actual plot.

      IMO the *ultra-elaborate theories* play right into the hands of WC fabulists who can easily mock the extraordinary number of farfetched variables and sinister people that those theories entail. Regarding such theories, conspiracists should exercise extreme caution and skepticism. No matter how intricate the plot, the most important point of the assassination event is this: the cover-up began immediately.

      (3) What was it about the assassination – and Oswald – that caused the civilian government to eliminate the possibility of conspiracy before investigating the crime? Was the government protecting the Mafia? Texas oil tycoons? A random bunch of nutwingers? Castro? LBJ? Answer the question and you’ll know who orchestrated the assassination. And you’ll know why the permanent power structure will cover it up forever.

  4. Maybe my old computer but I was left with a server not found message again 3 X tonight. Re booted to get here. Also, when you search for the site instead of popping up at number 1 it’s number 4.

    1. Ronnie,

      It could be a problem with either your browser cache or name server updates associated with your internet provider.
      JFKfacts.org name servers were revised on March 9, and this appears to have contributed to recent difficulties.:
      https://www.whatsmydns.net/#A/jfkfacts.org

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Name_server#Caching_name_server

      The internal links in this site were also not resolving for two days because of a database mismatch, which obviously has been solved. JFKfacts.org is a WordPress site.:

      http://www.wpbeginner.com/glossary/mysql/
      ……. WordPress uses the PHP programming language to store and retrieve data from the MySQL database. To retrieve data from the database, WordPress runs SQL queries to dynamically generate content. SQL stands for Structured Query Language and is the programming language typically used to query databases…

      I am fortunate not be experiencing the problems you are describing. You are not the only one. I access the site the same way you do, through an internet provider. In no more than a day or two, probably sooner if you clear your brower’s cache, your experience on this site should return to normal.

  5. I was perusing the site earlier this evening and clicked back, it gave me a “page not found”. Clicked out of the site and tried to reenter it with the same results. Several posts since then. Hope all is well. FYI.

  6. Fnatastic! I am glad to see that JFKfacts.org is functioning normally again!
    I am only disappointed that the original Comment of the week that appeared has been replaced by the fiat of this emergency of the last couple of days.
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