Nov. 22 tapes: ‘Somebody made decisions about what they wanted the public to know and hear ‘

“The government created these recordings. The editing shows that somebody made decisions about what they wanted the public to know and hear and what they didn’t want the public to know and hear.”

Audio engineer Ed Primeau on tapes of conversations from Air Force One, the presidential jet, on November 22, 1963, the day President John F. Kennedy was shot dead in Dallas.

For more on this story:

“Audio engineer on the trail of a long-lost JFK tape” (JFK Facts, Nov. 6, 2013)

“Enhanced Air Force One tape captures top general’s response to JFK’s murder”  (JFK Facts, Oct. 19, 2013)

“What’s the most important piece of JFK assassination evidence to surface in the past five years?” (JFK Facts, Oct. 27, 2013)

Listen to the enhanced Air Force One tapes from November 22, 1963, in four parts, as prepared by Primeau Forensics.

11 comments

  1. Gary says:

    I look forward to any forums or discussions you may have. I’ve studied this conspiracy for 33 years and feel I have a lot to offer to most symposiums.

  2. Hans Trayne says:

    In addition to the AF-1 edited recordings, the same can be said for most (if not all) the evidence in the JFK murder case. Films were mutilated, scenes omitted & forged, medical & forensic evidence destroyed or fabricated…on & on.

    This is a primary reason the work effort sincere & honest JFK researchers/authors/historians/technical & other experts(such as Jeff Morley) & a precious few others is so important to history & for us as humans trying to understand the forces around us that created this horrific event in our past. The ones fighting the release of the truth want the global public to overlook that the evidence in the case was ‘sanitized’ by a number of people in an effort to distort the truth & deceive.

  3. Willy Bova says:

    Jeff I read your Dallas news piece on the AF1 tapes, and I have a question, where did you get the information the Air Force dispatched a plane to Wairton AFB or Camp X as some called it? In General LeMay’s official biography he claims to have been in Northern Michigan the day of the Assassination, how does he get from Northern Michigan to Wairton AFB Canada and depart at 4:04 pm Eastern time, 150 minutes after the Assassination? It makes no sense. Besides training Assassins for WW2 and Cold War assignments what else took place at Wairton AFB in 1963 any Continuity of Government functions, or radio facilities? Has anyone ever researched Canadian sources about Wairton AFB the day of the Assassination? How long was General Lemay in Canada? Did he clear customs etc? Was he actually in Michigan? If he was in Michigan why didn’t the Air Force dispatch a plane to Michigan? It would seem like the next logical step in the curious new previously redacted information released from the AF1 tapes. Perhaps that loose end should be closed, just what was General Lemay doing in Canada and why did he lie about his whereabouts?

    Thanks

    Willy

  4. MDG says:

    Wiarton, Ontario is a few hours northwest of Toronto and and is in the Bruce Peninsula jutting out into Lake Huron. Population of two thousand and more in tourist season. It is a very isolated place most people dont visit in November.

  5. MDG says:

    We are talking about General Lemay being called back from Canada on the Air Force One Tapes.

    Some have wondered if he was actually flown out of CAMP X in Whitby, Ontario just outside of Toronto.

    It was a super secret place where top spies were trained especially prior to the U S entry into WW2.

    It specialized in such things as training for silent killings.

    The Generals were directing the Official Autopsy of JFK. It is very likely a secret autopsy was done prior to this after body was choppered over to Bethseda.

    Something is really happening here if Kennedy Family didnt know this was happening. Wonder what RFK thought when he found out his brother’s wounds were not dissected.

    That would have established number of shots & from which direction each shot came from.

    Air Force One Tapes are indeed significant.

    They show a power grab by the Military to not only control Official Autopsy but evidence pointing in direction of a Secret Autopsy.

    • Ramon F Herrera says:

      [MDG:]

      “[…] wounds were not dissected. That would have established number of shots & from which direction each shot came from.”

      ================================

      Furthermore, MDG, we don’t even need wounds being dissected. Let’s buy the absurd argument that they were in a big hurry.

      This picture alone is decisive evidence of a conspiracy in that room:

      http://patriot.net/~ramon/jfk/JFK-Brains.jpg

      The day that the other side explains the reason for that photographer not taking ONE freakin’ step back, we will swallow the LN theory whole.

      Then again, perhaps the photographer performed as a responsible professional and the falsification was done at cropping time.

  6. Gen. Curtis Lemay visited the LBJ Ranch in 1957 and carved his name in one of the cement blocks as “Curt Lemay 1957.” LeMay also told JFK when the Cuban Missile Crisis was settled in 1962 with no war that it was the greatest loss in American history.

    LeMay also referred to the Kennedys in his oral history with the LBJ Library as “ruthless,” “vindictive” with low morals he called the Kennedy people “cockroaches.”

    Question: What do you do with a cockroach? A crunching sound comes to mind.

    LeMay oral history: http://web2.millercenter.org/lbj/oralhistory/lemay_curtis_1971_0628.pdf

    A snippet: “Frantz: Was there any great difference between working on the Joint Chiefs under Johnson than it had been with Kennedy or did the fact that you had the same Secretary of Defense insure the continuity?

    LeMay : No, I didn’t understand exactly what was going on . For several months before the President was assassinated they were rumors, and then they got to be a little more than rumors, Vice President Johnson was going to be dropped for the coming election . And all the Kennedy team was finally got to openly to giving to the Vice President to the back of their hands,
    and it was rather embarrassing for the country around Washington because it was so apparent . Then bang, all at once he is President .

    Frantz : Yes.

    LeMay : And I believe all of this hard feeling grew up around the flight from Fort Worth back was brought on by these people who had really been vulgar in my opinion and snubbing the Vice President who expected to be stepped on like the cockroaches they were, and he didn’t do it . As a matter of fact quite the contrary . From all I got the President was extremely polite to Mrs . Kennedy and the family and bent over backwards to do everything he could to soften the blow if that is possible . It isn’t, but he certainly
    was a Southern gentleman in every respect during this period . And I think this rather surprised these people because they expected the same kind of treatment that they had given him and he didn’t give it to him . Why, I don’t know.”

    • Ramon F Herrera says:

      [Curtis LeMay:]

      “And I think this rather surprised these people because they expected the same kind of treatment that they had given him and he didn’t give it to him . Why, I don’t know.”

      ================

      That sentence alone proves that General LeMay was lying.

      A 10-year old, fifty years later, can explain to the General what he pretends not to know.

      • Here is my favorite Lemay quote, besides the one about rats growing bigger and stronger after nuclear bomb testing:

        “And all the Kennedy team was finally got to openly to giving to the Vice President to the back of their hands,
        and it was rather embarrassing for the country around Washington because it was so apparent. Then bang, all at once he is President.”

        “Bang.” I think LeMay knows exactly how that “bang” happened and why it happened. It also shows DC insiders like LeMay were completely cued into the JFK/RFK attempts to utterly destroy Lyndon Johnson in the fall of 1963.

        I asked Howard Willens, surviving Warren Commission staffer, in Oct. 2013 if he (Willens) knew in real time that the Kennedys and Lyndon Johnson were at loggerheads in the fall of 1963. Willens’ response to me was, “Everyone in town knew it.”

        Willens at that time was working in Robert Kennedy’s Justice Dept.

  7. Paul Turner says:

    It’s interesting that had RFK lived, he most assuredly would have been the Democratic nominee for President, and running against the Wallace-LeMay ticket(of course Nixon-Agnew, too).

  8. “It’s interesting that had RFK lived, he most assuredly would have been the Democratic nominee for President, and running against the Wallace-LeMay ticket(of course Nixon-Agnew, too).”~Paul Turner

    Doubly interesting as both RFK and Wallace were shot.
    Nixon may have not “been willing to kill to get the presidency”, but someone was willing to kill to make sure he did.

    Must’ve had to do with that “Bay of Pigs thing”…
    Nixon was “supposed to be” president for that event. Boy did Kennedy cause a set back in the fascist plans of the military industrial complex.
    They got their war in Vietnam, but lost the youth of Amerika to the Hippy movement.
    A generation lost to the militarists.
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