Lost evidence: the original Orville Nix film

Orville Nix, a native of Dallas, took this film of JFK’s assassination. But as his granddaughter Gayle Nix Jackson explains on her website, this is NOT the camera original copy of the film. This is a copy of the film Nix gave to the FBI. The original of the film has never surfaced. It if it did, it might contain new visual information about the crime scene — or it might not. The loss of the original shows the lack of seriousness on the part of the FBI in investigating Kennedy’s death.

 

14 comments

  1. Brad Milch says:

    When one adds the Nix film to the list of suspected butchering of most, if not all, of the other ambush films the moral becomes clear: never part with your original & make plenty of back-up copies for safe keeping, no matter how appealing the big bucks seem at the moment. Also, the people one thinks they are helping investigate just might be involved in committing it or covering up for the perpetrators that did. What a terrible legacy early investigators left for Gayle Nix.

  2. Clarence Carlson says:

    According to the Gayle Nix website, her grandfather didn’t have the film developed until a week later. On November 24th Mr Tolson of the FBI published a memo that spoke of preparing a memorandum “showing that Oswald is responsible for the shooting that killed the President”. The Katzenbach memo was released November 25.
    By this time the Nix film was available there was officially little interest in pursuing other avenues of investigation.

  3. Jonathan says:

    Some who have studied the Nix and Zapruder films maintain Nix is at odds with Zapruder. There are two points of contention: (1) Whether Nix shows Jackie’s arm futher back along the trunk than Zapruder. (2) Whether Nix shows Clint Hill interacting more forcibly with Jackie on the trunk, as Hill has said he did, than does Zapruder, which shows scant physical interaction.

    I can buy into assertion (2). But only as a student of the case, not as a lawyer.

    As a lawyer, I’d move to exclude both films from a prosecution of Oswald or anyone else. Nix is suspect because of the FBI’s long initial custody and lack of camera-original authentication. The extant Zapruder is suspect on numerous grounds. As a lawyer, I’d call various witnesses regarding Zapruder, including some who consistently said they didn’t see a head snap but who saw distinct JFK flinches (the living witnesses to an original Zapruder viewing include Dan Rather).

    • Hans Trayne says:

      Several visuals analysts have reported Orville Nix’s film is missing scenes on Elm Street witnesses reported occurring during & after the attack. These include DPD motorcycle officer Chaney riding ahead of the stricken Presidential car to inform Chief Jesse Curry JFK had been shot, the parade car stopping during the attack & Clint Hill placing his body in a prone position across the top of JFK’s seat before the car entered the triple underpass. SS ‘Queen Mary’ driver Samuel Kinney reported the latter scene in his 30 Nov 1963 SS statement. Mr. Nix informed Mark Lane in his filmed 1966 interview that his film had been tampered with (frames missing). One today surely wonders why the last moments of President Kennedy on Elm Street were treated in such a cruel manner by early investigators & news organizations.

    • Photon says:

      Exactly WHO said that the original is missing? What proof is there to confirm this allegation? Mr Nix died 40 years ago- how much did he discuss this with his granddaughter ?
      The website is pushing a new book. Enough said.

      • Photon?

        Feel free to email me and I will give you my phone number to talk to you personally. It is common knowledge that the Nix film has been missing. If you were familiar with the case, you would know that I’ve been asking for help in finding it since 1990. I had no book written then. Please try to be more open-minded and not think everyone is out to make a buck! The WHO that says it is missing is myself, the Sixth Floor Museum and many, many others.

        Gayle Nix Jackson

    • anonymous says:

      “Some who have studied the Nix and Zapruder films maintain Nix is at odds with Zapruder.”

      A book titled “The Great Zapruder Film Hoax” claimed the film was altered by the CIA:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Am4qdl9PTA#t=98

      Son Henry honored his father’s request to never look at the original film:
      http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/jfk-zapruders-article-1.1514600

  4. Thank you so much Jeff in posting this. I so hope it helps shine a spotlight on how important it is to find the camera original Nix film and highlights again, how horribly important evidence was treated in the investigations.

    With respect and thanks,

    Gayle Nix-Jackson

  5. Dave says:

    Look at Mary Moorman’s shoes in the Nix film – or try to. You can’t see them because as she said, she had stepped off the south curb and was standing on Elm St., and not on the grass. But the Zapruder film shows her with oddly shaped “shoes” and apparently standing on the grass, not on the street.
    Which film is authentic?

    • Jonathan says:

      Repost:

      Frame-by-frame, the Nix film shows Mary Moorman on Elm Street when she snapped her famous photo.

      You can see the tops or the back of her shoes in Nix. And a strip of Elm Street behind her shoes. Those are facts.

      The extant Nix film is at odds with the extant Z-film, which shows Mary Moorman on the grass.

      There’s a lie here. A lie that undermines the Warren Report.

  6. John Kornfeind says:

    Look at when it shows the close-up of Jackie. It shows JFK’s head going to the right not the left!!!!

  7. Scott Fulmer says:

    “The loss of the original shows the lack of seriousness on the part of the FBI in investigating Kennedy’s death.” Well, you could argue that they simply aren’t serious about anything. But arguing this loss could be explained by a lack of seriousness is a stretch, here, in my opinion. It’s not hard to differentiate between conspiracy, disdainful malfeasance, and shallowness. There’s no question this should have meant the world to the FBI.

  8. I am, again, reminded on the brevity of life. I just wasted 12 plus minutes watching this film, and another 15 reading the discussion of the authenticity. Mr. Nix captured an amazing sequence of events with his camera. It shows what it shows from the place he was standing. Nothing more or less. Everyone should walk away with this important thought. The alleged ‘shape at the corner of the retaining wall. There was NO PLACE to hide there. Those 3 men ran up those steps within a second or two of the last shot. They didn’t confront a man on his knee…getting up…holding a rifle. Nothing. To that point…they didn’t encounter Gordon Arnold’s man with a sniper rifle making him give him a camera and then his film. Nothing. Nobody ever confronts the stories of what they saw back there in the 5 seconds after the last shot. Now we have to read about the limo stopping. Nonsense. The Queen Mary slowed down to avoid hitting Mr. Hill (or, at best, the body of a possibly falling Jackie Kennedy off the back of the limo). Imagine if that horror were to happen.

    Every last person visits this website and just expands on a certain nano-second of time with theory after theory. There was no place to fire and stay hidden on that knoll. There was no way on God’s Green Earth that a human being stuck his head, let alone a rifle w/o being seen by DOZENS of people. The area is so tiny people. A human head/torso takes up 6 PICKETS of space (20 inches). When we see these amazing photos, especially the one taken by Mr. Nix, in conjunction with the Moorman Photo, one can clearly see no such person is back there. To insist that there is a shooter lurking there is just conspiracy mongering at it’s most sensational.

    I’d like to have people look at the Elsie Doorman film (taken from the TSBD). While it does not show the Assassination, what it does show is a man reacting to a sudden stimulus (a shot I’d argue) which occurs in the last 2 seconds at just about the time Oswald (or someone else) would have fired. Watch this mans head dramatically lurch left and upward. EOS.

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