Watch the trailer for JFK documentary, ‘Killing Oswald’

The film is called Killing Oswald. I haven’t seen it but Mark Groubert has and here is what he said in his review for Crooks and Liars:

“Shane O’Sullivan’s new documentary, Killing Oswald is simple in design and stunning in its veracity. It assembles some of the top JFK assassination scholars and authors and lets them speak. This is something the American media is apparently too reluctant or simply too terrified to do. Possibly both.”

“Here we finally see authors Joan Mellen (A Farewell To Justice), Dick Russell (The Man Who Knew Too Much), John Newman (Oswald and the CIA) and David Kaiser (The Road To Dallas), among others, telling the audience what they have uncovered after years of research.”


  1. G. Albert says:

    I purchased the video and would recommend it to anybody who wants to see the many sides of Oswald – particularly as they relate to his association with intelligent agencies (CIA, FBI)… The video includes interesting film footage and/or photographs of Phillips, Veciana, Nagell, De Mohrenschildt… The documentary clearly shows the parts of Oswald story which the mainstream media avoids…

    By the way, Shane O’Sullivan was recently interviewed on BlackOpRadio and discusses this documentary project…

  2. Jonathan says:

    I request readers to compare the photo of the person above (before the trailer starts) with famous marine photo. We’ve been told countlessly that they’re photos of the same person, Lee Harvey Oswald. But if we block that message and just use our own eyes and brains, it’s pretty easy to see those are photos of two different persons. Different noses, chins, hair, cheeks, eyes.

    • Mitch says:

      People change. What would be the point of the wacky ‘Harvey and Lee’ theory? If two kids start out looking alike, won’t they change over time anyway? I know identical twins that just look like your average brothers. It’s one thing to claim that an individual represented himself as Oswald as part of an unconnected intelligence operation, or even to set up Oswald as the assassin, and another to claim some decade long operation to confuse unknown parties for unknown reasons.

  3. Warren says:

    I eagerly await an open-minded presentation of the Lee Harvey Oswald story. The basis to understanding the nature of the unsolved murder of JFK is determining who manipulated Oswald into his patsy role.

    • larrywheeler says:

      JFK’s political enemies were on the “rightwing” not the left where the “sheepdipping” of Oswald occurred. I used to compartmentalize Kennedy’s enemies -the cia, mafia, oilmen, LBJ, minutemen, JBS, and military industrial complex. all along the threads were so obvious -all were threatened by JFK-RFK and all were deadly. They all overlapped – example-many of the texas oil people were cia and they backed LBJ’s political career. HL Hunt could bankroll the JBS and minutemen who were gunrunners for the anti-castro Cubans. This got into the cia and military intell as they had a psych warfare plan to blame Castro for an attack on the U.S. as a “pretext” to invade Cuba and take Castro out once and for all. The assassination was all about the linking up Castro, the operation worked, but the invasion into Cuba never took place. Vietnam served the cia -military complex well, but i’m at a loss why Castro was avoided.

      • TLR says:

        I totally agree. I used to compartmentalize those groups as well, but they are closely linked by shared politics, business, families, social, college and military ties, illegal operations, etc.

      • Bill Pierce says:

        larrywheeler asks:
        “but I’m at a loss why Castro was avoided.”

        (1) Because Oswald survived the assassination and was in custody. And government insiders – LBJ and Hoover – knew within 24 hours that he had been impersonated in Mexico City. They knew exactly what it meant. Would Oswald eventually name names, including FBI and CIA? In a fair trial led by a non-government team of world-class attorneys/investigators, how much evidence would the government have to suppress? And how would that look to citizens and jury members who were being asked to believe that Oswald was an unaffiliated nut or a hit man for Castro?
        (2) The civilian government had to make sure that it was in control. In a coup, the plotters try to dominate the narrative so they can manage public perceptions. In this instance, a potential nuclear confrontation with the Soviets was on the line . . . or at least LBJ thought so. [Examples of the importance of narrative: the Gulf of Tonkin lie; the Hill & Knowlton PR campaign preceding HW Bush’s Desert Storm; the Cheney administration’s management of lies leading up to Shock & Awe.]
        (3) Did the government have enough evidence to successfully link Castro to Comrade Oswaldskovich? No. Castro would have been the LEAST likely person to order JFK’s assassination. Castro certainly would not have relied on Oswald to do the deed. Everyone in Washington knew it.

  4. JSA says:

    I would be interested in having someone who knows a lot about Oswald, Jean Davison, watch this film and then comment. She might be able to point out if there are any inaccuracies in it.

    • Jean Davison says:

      Thanks, JSA. I’ve only watched the trailer but noticed a couple of things.

      It’s very unlikely that Oswald knew any “secrets about the U-2” to take to the USSR (the Russians already knew more about it than he ever did).

      A narrator claims that while Oswald was in New Orleans he was “definitely being watched at that time, closely, by the CIA’s counterintelligence people.” Since I don’t plan to rent the video, could someone who’s seen it please tell me what is being referred to there?

      • Neil says:

        “A narrator claims that while Oswald was in New Orleans he was “definitely being watched at that time, closely, by the CIA’s counterintelligence people.” Since I don’t plan to rent the video, could someone who’s seen it please tell me what is being referred to there?”

        The film touches on the fact that the Fair Play For Cuba Committee was being targeted by the FBI at the time when Oswald’s public appearances as a representative of the organization began. It also mentions Oswald’s interactions with the DRE group and the fact that Carlos Bringuer was a CIA asset. It’s very likely that both the FBI and CIA were watching Oswald closely that summer and were aware of what he was doing in New Orleans.

      • Jordan says:

        I am of the opinion that LHO did have technical knowledge that would have been very highly classified.
        Oswald was a radar operator, and according to his superiors a pretty good one.

        I don’t expect most to be aware of the fact that radar and comms gear are not exactly user-friendly devices and to achieve proficiency requires some level of understanding and obviously the intelligence to do so.

        Given the technology of that time and the fact that Oswald also appears to have also had some maintenance duties, I’d say he had a lot of classified knowledge.

        At Atsugi, he would have been using state of the art materiel from Collins, Raytheon, Hughes et al, which was all part of a classified program.

        You cannot assume that since the Soviets could “track” Sputnik they could detect U2 flights because they are rather dissimilar tasks.

        Knowing the height, speed, the rates of ascent and descent and other flight parameters as well as the radar parameters such as sweep rate and pulse frequency and bandwidth was highly valued information.

      • Lawrence Schnapf says:

        Jean Davidson,

        What is your basis for the statement “It’s very unlikely that Oswald knew any “secrets about the U-2″ to take to the USSR”? There is testimony in the public record about the information he would have had access to as a result of his assignment.

        Larry Schnapf

        • Jean Davison says:


          This CIA document on Oswald’s possible access to info on the U-2 was classified until 1993:

          Oswald may’ve seen the U-2 plane take off and land on his radar screen, but so could other radar operators in the area–that part couldn’t be kept hidden. Oswald had a low security clearance and he left Atsugi in November 1958, a year before he defected.

          According to Wikipedia, “Soviet intelligence was aware of encroaching U-2 flights since 1956 but lacked effective countermeasures until 1960.”

  5. Mike Zilis says:

    Excellent documentary. Highly recommended.

  6. Neil says:

    I just finished watching it. This is a very slow paced documentary but highly informative and lays out the many reasons it appears that Lee Oswald was an intelligence asset and how his activities in New Orleans and Mexico City were part of a larger plot to frame him.

    There’s a good amount of time spent laying out the background behind JFK’s Soviet and Cuba policies (something that the NatGeo film ‘Killing Kennedy’ only skimmed through).

    I mostly liked how they used actors to dramatize some of the statements of Lee Oswald and David Atlee Phillips.

  7. Bogman says:

    Watching the documentary. It’s become to clear to me that Oswald was supposed to get a visa to Cuba so it would be in his possession to frame him as a Castro assassin who would try to escape to Cuba. Barring that, they at least had ‘evidence’ of his attempt to do so.

    • Ronnie Wayne says:

      Hmmm. Your observation, in conjunction with Joaanides paying for the first “Oswald/Castro did it” disinformation article within 24 hours of the slaughter of Democracy might lead a reasonable thinking person to conclude some were conspiring to murder JFK. FREE THE FILES and prove these theories wrong.

  8. JG says:

    How did the real conspirators get him to not have an alibi then flee the scene, kill a cop and attempt to shoot another cop ?

    • rollo says:

      I think he was part of the conspiracy-assuming there was one. Does anyone doubt that he brought a rifle(“curtain rods”) to the TSBD that day? That doesn’t necessarily mean that he fired it at JFK.

      • b binnie says:

        the Package LHO brought was 24 inches long- A dissassembled Carcano is 38 inches long- there is a doubt-
        The Major Question remains: How and why is LHO alive after the presidents execution? Was he supposed to take missed shots ala Gen Walker and realizes he better get a gun and hide pronto when JFKs head explodes? If shots are taken that miss and then LHO dissapears presumably to Cuba, the plotters still get their US invansion of Cuba and this threat to our Security is eliminated- If LHO is a pure patsy he is dead long before the ford turns on Elm Street- Something goes very wrong at some point and Ruby who has been engaged from Parkland to the Police Garage basement must be coerced to clean things up. What was the intended role of LHO that day and How and why is LHO alive after the presidents execution?

        • Photon says:

          Who measured it?

          • B Binnie says:

            Frazier said the gun was held at one point under the arm pit and in a cupped hand – for a man of Oswalds size this would mean 2 feet or less- WCR says he must have been mistaken- Ruth P offered 2 feet as an estimate which would be a significant departure from 38+ Inches when accounting for packaging- All of this is fairly secondary- LHO brought something special that day to the DSBD (Communication Devices?) and must have had a role to play in a conspiracy but he seems to have gone off the rails when JFK was actually killed- What I think anyone who wants to argue against the WCR findings must do FIRST is come up with a realistic scenario about what LHO was doing that day and explain why a Patsy would be allowed to freely travel around the building before and after the killing. In my 40 years of study I have never heard a convincing explanation for the verifiable chain of events concerning LHO’s actions that day since what we know for certain does paint him as a lone nut killer. It is all the strange events surrounding the execution and the fact that JFK is shot in his Adams Apple and slaughtered by high tech ordinance that strikes him just forward of and above his right ear that is an issue- I think my theory that Oswald was taking Pot Shots at JFK ala Gen Walker takes this problem on squarely- It would be interesting to hear if someone can offer something more tangible.

      • Ramon F Herrera says:


        “Does anyone doubt that he [Lee] brought a rifle(“curtain rods”) to the TSBD that day?”


        Affirmative. That would be Buell Wesley Frazier and sister (the only people who saw the package). They emphasize that there was no way there was a rifle inside. In addition to the dimensions, you can easily tell by the “visual weight” as the bag moves around.

        “Buell Frazier publicly debunks the WC curtain rod/rifle theory.”

    • Paul Turner says:

      Those plans were probably worked out the previous night at the Murchison meeting. LBJ and Conally were there, as was Mac Wallace, whose fingerprint was discovered on the 6th floor soon after the shooting.

  9. Hans Trayne says:

    Joan Mellen’s work (A Farewell To Justice) is extremely important to understanding Lee Oswald’s world in 1963. Joan says in her most recent updates to her book at her website that ‘Lee Oswald was never alone; he was always in the company of intelligence operatives’. Professor Mellen also discloses that RFK knew about & was monitoring Lee Oswald, making him an additional high level figure interested in Lee Oswald prior to JFK’s murder. According to Mrs. Mellen, preventing the public from learning RFK knew about Lee Oswald pre-assassination is why RFK used his right hand man to wreck Jim Garrison’s investigation. Joan has been answering many questions I have about Lee Oswald & his public support of Fidel Castro in 1963 enacted without arrest from the FBI or Federal Marshals.

    • Photon says:

      That is about the most bizarre story that I have heard . RFK knew Oswald? He wrecked Garrison’s “investigation” ? That is absolutely sick- how can anybody take that individual seriously? To imply that RFK had a part in a plot to kill his own brother is beyond the pale -and reflective of the utter bankruptcy of the conspiracy movement after 50 years of inability to exonerate Oswald.If “South Park ” ran a parody of Mellen’s work they would run scripts on the bottom saying ” yes, she really believes this”- because nobody in their right mind would believe the story possible.

      • Brad Milch says:

        Those familiar with Professor Mellen’s work can spot your 2 straw man setups. RFK being routinely briefed on active CIA & FBI covert operations does not mean he actually knew the operatives & he was NOT briefed of any active operation to kill his brother eithers. What RFK was told about Oswald will be known when the withheld JFK files are released and after the RFK files are scrutinized & analyzed. It doesn’t take much to guess what RFK was being told about Lee Oswald by those monitoring him simply by looking at Oswald’s actions in New Orleans & (allegedly) in Mexico City. RFK was most likely being told an operation was underway to get an operative into Cuba. Oswald had a pro-Russian & pro-Cuban resume that his handler assumed would appeal to Castro enough to let him inside the country. After the assassination RFK was probably told Oswald flipped for Castro or went rogue on his own. The files will tell us.
        You owe Joan Mellon a huge apology, Photon.

  10. Alan Dale says:

    Joan Mellen has a new book: The Great Game In Cuba: How The CIA Sabotaged Its Own Plot To Unseat Fidel Castro.


  11. Tom says:

    Frontline special on Oswald says 8 seconds to shoot all shots. How is there a discrepancy, what is the origin of our knowledge of the timing here.

  12. Tom says:

    Found this:

    …apologies. Although born in 58 I’m a neophyte when it comes to getting into the weeds of this. …but I like it.

  13. Bob Seale says:

    Richard Helms described Shackley as a quadruple threat at his inauguration into the CIA Hall of Fame in 1979. “Ted,” said Helms at the time, “Is what we call in the spook business a quadruple threat—Drugs, Arms, Money and Murder or DAMM! And Ted is a HOT DAMM!!”

  14. Bill Callahan says:

    Again. The fact that Oswald (if in fact he did shoot Tippit) killed Tippit only about 150 yards from Jack Ruby’s front door on S. Ewing Street needs to be addressed. He says he was going to see a movie (according to his interview with Police). Ok. I’ll give that some credence (very little).
    However, the fastest way to the Texas Theater (the only Theater near Oswald) would have been more easily reached by just walking all the way down Zang. Why in the world would a man (Oswald) who had no supposed knowledge of what was going on) start to behave so guilty (unless of course..He IS guilty).

    So, Mr. Oswald goes zig-zagging all over the place to see a movie that he told Jesse Curry he wanted to see??? Makes no sense. Oswald was heading to Jack Ruby’s house. Tippit was stalking him.

    Most Americans have no clue about the proximity of Tippit’s shooting scene to Jack Ruby’s front door. It’s been buried and just glossed over. If more had…they’d be screaming for another inquest.

    • BradR says:

      I think he was guilty-but of what is not clear.Knowledge of a plot? Being an active shooter?
      What ever it was, he was going to the Texas Theater for a reason: either a payoff for services rendered, or aid in getting out of Dallas. He really would not need an escape plan if someone else furnished him one.
      Of course, he could have sat in the Texas Theater waiting for Ruby to come home after posting his ads.
      I suspect that the Tippit episode upset the timeline and Ruby missed his chance to tie up a loose end.

      • Bill Callahan says:

        Brad…I agree…Guilty of SOMETHING. Oswald’s actions do not speak to a man who is totally without some guilt (or a tremendous sense of foreshadowing). I look at the actions of Oswald, Ruby, and Tippit in the 1 hour AFTER the assassination as the indicator.

        First Ruby: Here is a man who ‘loves’ the President enough to kill his slayer on Sunday but can’t spare the 20 minutes to watch his ‘hero’ drive past his position at the Dallas Morning News which is only a 5 minute walk to the corner of Elm.

        Tippit: Here is a man who was literally coming apart-at-the-seams in the 60 minutes after JFK was killed. Seen racing up and down the street. Observed making/taking a call and watching the Exit Ramp (from Downtown Dallas), and even may have made the blip on the news clip which mentions a ‘suspect car stopped, IN OAK CLIFF, and subject apprehended (as announced in a clip on the local Dallas News feed). Was this Tippit stopping a Rambler and sending it on his was in the moments before he saw Oswald? I think so. Why was he jack-dabbing all over the area.

        Oswald: President drives past his place of business and he doesn’t want to see the leader of the free world (even if he was a Marxist he would SURELY want to see the anti-Marxist ruler of the Democratic World drive past. If not to shoot him…then just to see him. Then he admits how he went home to N. Beckley…where his clothes were (how nice).

        I think that the thing that makes me wonder so much about Ozzie, is the Bus Transfer Ticket. He clearly tells Capt. Fritz he changed his pants…yet, he takes the Transfer with him. WTF gives with that. Only explanation…he was going to off Ruby and then take a bus outta Dodge City.

        All of which makes me wonder one thing: The Transfer Ticket. In Oswald’s hands after the shooting. In pocket for cab ride to N. Beckley. Pulled from pocket and then re-inserted into pocket of pants he changed into (where it was discovered later at his booking). I WONDER if it were possible that NITRATES could have been transferred from his hands after killing JFK and accepting that Transfer Ticket. Clearly Ossie didn’t wash his hands before he exited the TSBD and, IF IT WAS NEVER CHECKED, can it be checked now?

  15. Barto says:

    The film itself is pretty good, I don’t think David Kaiser’s stuff helped but it’s a matter of opinion.

    I was there when the movie played in London two years ago, there were about 20 people there, that’s including the director and the crew. I arrived a few mins late and fell asleep 2x as well, so left with the hump.

    Bought the dvd and watched 3x since. The David Philips footage is a great catch, and I think Dick Russell has a calming presence and puts his stuff forward in an easy to understand way.

    It helped me two years ago, but with all the knowledge I have gained since about LHO I would have stuck more to the timeline of Oswald in custody more.

    And I still don’t like the diary part with the actor in that warehouse in the East End.

    Even with the little ‘faults’ it is still one of the better docus around.

  16. Tony poe IV says:

    Lone Nut=National Security because Science.

  17. Photon says:

    Wouldn’t be to Curry’s benefit to have an excuse as to why the President was killed in Dallas while under his protection, why they let Oswald have a press conference and turn it into a media circus, why they completely threw away normal security procedures and allowed a passerby to walk down into a police garage and gun down the most important suspect in the history of Dallas?
    Curry and his department were probably the most incompetent in American legal history. If that idiot and his department had done their jobs Oswald would have been convicted in a brief trial and the conspiracy industry would never have been born.

  18. Jason L. says:

    They were only possibly eclipsed by the LAPD in 1968, conveniently.

  19. Paul Turner says:

    By that time, “that idiot and his department” were being told what to do by John Edgar Hoover at the FBI, who himself was probably being told what to do by LBJ.

  20. GM says:

    Oswald got the job in the TSBD around a month before the assassination. Ruth Paine got him the job. The route that the motorcade took was not in the newspapers until a few days before the assassination. Jesse Curry said that he could not place Oswald at the sniper’s nest on the sixth floor of the book depository. If Oswald did it by himself then he got hell of a lucky with the route, and the fact that he had access to a relatively high vantage point. If he was set up then he would have a lot of explaining to do, as the photo of him with his rifle was in circulation. Oswald’s case history: his training as a Marine, the apparent defection to the Soviet Union, and his apparent support for Marxism, would be awfully attractive to those with dangerous agendas.

  21. Bill Pierce says:

    John Kirsch writes:
    “It doesn’t seem totally implausible to me that RFK would have known of Oswald before 11/22, even if only on a very superficial level, since RFK was the administration’s point man for so many covert activities.”

    It would be implausible if RFK did NOT know about the one and only member of FPCC in New Orleans. I think he knew the name and the arrangement. Can’t prove it, though.

    Which brings up the important question: how well does the official version of history represent reality? And how do we fill in the blanks? Examples: Who planted the yellowcake forgery that enabled US neo-cons to accuse Iraq of nuclear ambition? (Was the forgery just a coincidence or is there more to the story?) Was LBJ ignorant of the Gulf of Tonkin (non)event or did he help plan it? Was April Glaspie’s communication of non-intervention policy to Saddam an innocent misunderstanding or was it a sucker punch? Did HW Bush know that the “incubator” story was a tall tale from a PR firm or was he just blissfully ignorant?

    Seems to me that we’re either willing to be gullible dupes . . . or to look at things as rational, skeptical, objective individuals, giving due consideration to the realities of historical chicanery, double-dealing and propaganda.

  22. S.R. "Dusty" Rohde says:

    John, as odd as it may sound, I have at times wondered if RFK discovered at least in part who was involved with JFK’s assassination. Then pondered the possibility that he may have been connected to any retaliation. Say for instance Sam Giacana, Jimmy Hoffa or others.

  23. JSA says:

    “Which brings up the important question: how well does the official version of history represent reality? And how do we fill in the blanks? ”

    My sentiments exactly! I find it amusing (and sad) that Americuns think propaganda only happens in other countries. I’m proud of the many great things our country has done, but it’s brain-dead to think nothing bad ever happens here. What do the CIA propagandists take us for anyway? Robotic, knee-jerk flag waving morons? If the Kennedy assassination teaches us anything, it’s that people in authority don’t always tell the truth, and that absolute power corrupts absolutely (CIA).

  24. Charles Vergados says:

    One thing that has always bothered me was Mark Lane stating on a New York talk show the night that RFK was shot,that Bobby felt”there were guns between him and the White House”. Bobby told that to Rev. walter Fauntroy in April of 1968 according to Thurston Clarke in “The Last Campaign”. Why Lane felt it necessary to say that is beyond me.He said that the polls had closed in California so it didn’t matter. I think it may have. Also,I believe that Clarke mentions that Bobby never wanted to be taken out through a kitchen. And the last minute change sealed his fate. Btw,I confronted Lane at a speech at Suffolk University in Boston (less than a block from JFK’s Boston apartment at 122 Bowdoin) about his statement,and he said it didn’t make any difference.

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