ISO missing Air Force One tape from 11/22/63

Appearing in Washington during Sunshine Week 2014, audio expert Ed Primeau explained his forensic analysis of a recently discovered audio recording from November 22, 1963.

Primeau’s comments point to the existence of audio recording from the day of JFK’s assassination that was never shared with the public  for unknown reasons.

The recording, discovered by a Philadelphia auction house in 2011, captures unreleased communications to and from Air Force One, the presidential jet as it carried President Kennedy’s body back from Dallas to Washington on that fateful day.

The reel to reel tape was found in the effects of Gen. Chester Clifton, a military aide to JFK in 1963.

Forensic science

Primeau’s detective work shows that the Clifton ape was heavily edited, “At least 15 times,” he says.

Primeau says he has “no doubt” the Clifton tape was extracted from a longer recording that has never been heard publicly. The original tape, if it still exists and becomes public, would be a revelatory and possibly game-changing document about the still controversial question of who killed JFK.

The original tape would constitute a real-time record of the reaction of the U.S. armed forces to the assassination of a sitting president. (Emphasis added.)

The whereabouts of the recording, if it still exists, are unknown.

An even more heavily edited version of the Air Force One tape was released by the Lyndon B. Johnson presidential library in 1979.

The analyst

Primeau, nationally known for his analysis of sound recordings in the George Zimmerman murder trial, serves as an expert witness in litigation involving audio and video evidence.

If you want to help Ed and I in the search for missing Air Force One tape, drop us a line here.

 

13 comments

  1. Jonathan says:

    Jeff,

    Bravo for giving highlight to Ed Primeau’s analysis.

    This is a great site, and you do a great job.

    You are a pioneer. As a journalist.

  2. Otus Chambers says:

    This still developing story is a blockbuster, Jeff Morley. At this stage I am as curious about the questions raised by your other readers in other threads as they are, particularly if noted JFK author William Manchester heard any of the edited out portions of the AF-1 tapes & left what he heard out of his book ‘Death Of A President’. He certainly had the opportunity to blow the lid off the kettle if he heard talk about JFK’s body being transported to Andrews in another aircraft or his touring car was shot through the windshield plus any other improprieties that his ears heard. It would be good to know if the AF-1 tapes were hacked up before or after Manchester had access to them. I suspect big time TV media types are watching your progress on this story very closely & may be quietly pursuing their own leads to persons who heard the tapes first hand or were involved in some way with the aircraft that transported JFK, JBJ & entourage from Dallas to Washington.
    Some people stand to gain a lot of money quickly if they have a story to tell on this. As more information is developed it will be historical & your devoted readers will know the fruit of all the work invested grew from seeds planted here at JFK Facts by Jefferson Morley. KUTGW

  3. Melvin Fromme says:

    I’m expecting someone like Fox News, fueled with big budgets & huge expense accounts, to want a piece of this story fast. Stay by your phone & check your email often, Jeff. You just may go from being sporadically interviewed to being offered full or freelance TV investigative journalism employment in the blink of an eye. This story is hot. You deserve all the good things your hard work brings you.
    Best

  4. Photon says:

    He also said that he had no doubt that Zimmerman said something that he didn’t say on the 911 tape.
    Who certifies him as an expert besides a body run by his colleague Owen and his wife?
    Take the blinders off and ask the questions before swallowing claims about expertise.

  5. Bill Kelly says:

    It isn’t Ed Primeau whose credentials are questionable it is the quack called Photon who has no credibility. How is it that someone can post idiotic statements under a fake name and get away with it?

    For those interested in a real study of acoustic evidence in criminal court cases the Wecht Institute of Forensic Science and Law is considering a symposium on the subject.

    And in response to David Von Paine’s web site comment about conspiracy theorists being wrong about suspicions of the AF1 tape, it is the fact that it is heavily edited and many conversations missing that fuels the suspicions.

    Bill Kelly

    • Photon says:

      If you go to Ed’s audio expert website he has 3 certificates posted.One is for ” American College of Forensic Examiners Institute” wich can be purchased by ANYONE for $165.00
      This institute is housed at a weight loss clinic located at 2750 E. Sunshine Road in Springfield, Missouri .
      There are 5 other ” colleges” and “associations” at the same address. They all have the same website picture and committee members with no biographies. It is what is colloquially referred to as a “diploma mill”.
      The ” International Association for Identification” certificate can be purchased for $70.00. As an “associate member” there are no requirements aside from paying the fee to get the certificate.
      The other certificate of for a 2 day course at the C.U. Denver campus- not the main campus at Boulder.
      Now why would anybody post such junk on their website as evidence of certification? Obviously he never thought that anybody would ever check. I think that this says volumes about Mr. Primeau’s qualifications.

      • Dave says:

        Photon, what are YOUR expert qualifications, while you’re busy slagging those of others doing important original research? Besides a CPR certificate that is …
        If you took the time to read what ACFEI actually is, and is not, then you wouldn’t try to lump them in with “diploma mills”. Dr. Cyril Wecht is the Chair of the ACFEI Executive Advisory Board, and a member of several of its Advisory Boards. AECFI provides information and continuing education for professionals including various US boards, associations and councils. They do not endorse, guarantee, warrant, certify or license their members. But you got one thing right: their annual membership fee is $165. And no, I’m not a member, nor personally acquainted with one.

        • Photon says:

          I never claimed to be an expert in acoustic evidence but the claim is that Mr. Primeau is one. Documentation is the issue.
          Frontline: The Real CSI April 17,2012. This program clearly exposes ACFEI for what it is. They even show a CFC certificate obtained by a graduate student with no background in forensic studies. The most amusing part is the ACFEI response to the program admitting that their certification is meaningless !

      • JSA says:

        So, unless someone’s credentials are sterling, NOTHING THEY SAY IS RELEVANT….ever??

        That’s balderdash. If you go by those kinds of standards, you should take what John McAdams says with a shaker of skeptical salt, because he thinks that anthropogenic global warming is a myth, despite the overwhelming published, peer-reviewed, expert scientific evidence to the contrary!

        • John McAdams says:

          So, unless someone’s credentials are sterling, NOTHING THEY SAY IS RELEVANT….ever??

          If they lack expert credentials, they are not due the deference that people might give a bona fide expert.

          In other words, they are just somebody asserting something.

  6. Preston Newe says:

    Bill Kelly,

    Some comments from retired military folks I know & interact with that hopefully will help you & others in searching for an unedited original or copy of the AF-1 audio:

    The edited portions may have been scrambled transmissions that were omitted & not replaced with its subsequent ‘unscrambling’. The Pentagon & Signal Corps should have been ‘in the loop’ in regards to receiving these transmissions in real time & not relayed through intermediates. The connection between Gen Clifton & the Kennedys needs to be looked at closely (was Clifton providing Robert Kennedy the tapes & did William Manchester play a part in working on a book authorized by Jackie & Robert; was the tape channeled to Manchester to help him write his 1967 book?). Decision making Gen Clifton may have been involved in needs to be looked at. How many other Generals had a copy of the transmissions? Were the transmissions shared with NSA, CIA, FBI, Secretary Of State, Pentagon, LBJ, etc.)
    As of now speculation is growing as to what the transmissions contained: instructions to & from the Pentagon, different arrangements to transport JFK’s body to an approved hospital for autopsy, flying safety concerns over the condition of JFK’s damaged touring car are leading the pack with the to & from by the Pentagon being considered the area where national security concerns may have been the justification for butchering the tapes. Speculation will inevitably grow. Transcripts of the edited portions would surely help researchers while the quest for unedited tapes progresses. Hats off to you, Ed Primeau & Jeff Morley, good sirs, on the breathtaking discovery you have brought to the global public’s attention.

    • Charles Beyer says:

      What leaps out at me & others following this story on the AF-1 edited tapes is there is no interaction between either the White House Situation Room, AF-1 or JFK’s Cabinet plane with the Pentagon. Knowing now that the Pentagon had Presidential approved contingency plans entitled ‘Furtherance’ that called for an immediate nuclear strike against the Soviet Union & China in the event the President was killed or became missing, where is the instructions to the SAC commanders not to deploy their aircraft to carry out the missions called for in the plans? What’s was holding them back? Is it possible commanders were instructed in advance to stand down if JFK didn’t return to the White House alive? The to & from the Pentagon should be on the AF-1 tapes & it’s not.

  7. John Kirsch says:

    “It isn’t Ed Primeau whose credentials are questionable it is the quack called Photon who has no credibility. How is it that someone can post idiotic statements under a fake name and get away with it?”
    You, sir, have asked a very important question.

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