What we still don’t know

My piece in the print edition of the Sunday, Oct. 27 issue of the Dallas Morning News .

5 comments

  1. Lanny K says:

    A four hour flight from Dallas Love Field to Andrews AFB?

    Let’s do the math together. AF1 left Dallas at 2:47 p.m. CST. It taxied to a stop in front of a national television audience at approximately 6:00 p.m. EST. Central Standard Time is one hour earlier than Eastern Standard Time. Eastern Standard time is one hour later than Central Standard Time.

    So one has the option of expressing AF1′s Dallas departure as being at 3:47 p.m. EST or the Andrews arrival as being at 5:00 p.m. CST (which ever way it happens to make the world easier to understand).

    Thanks to the commutative property of addition, any way one runs the numbers, the flight from Dallas to Andrews was still just shy of two hours and 15 minutes.

    Jeff? Bill? How could you?

    • Dan says:

      The Washingtonian story on the flight back from Dallas says the flight time was 2 hours and 12 minutes. Also that the SAM 26000 aircraft could handle three simultaneous radio conversations, and that the radio operator was kept busy almost every minute of the trip. The 88 minutes of tape found so far does not seem to cover the extent of radio traffic from the plane.

      • Lanny K says:

        But there is a big difference between a 44 min. gap between the currently recorded 88 min. of radio traffic and total flight time of 2 hrs. 12 min. than there would be between a 152 min. gap over the course of a (non-existent) four hour flight.

        Furthermore, let’s be frank about where this speculation is headed. CTs are salivating over the imagined prospect of hearing ACTUAL CONSPIRATORS “conspiring” over a tape recorded, non-secure radio transmission about where next to take the body of President Kennedy, and by what method of transport.

        Given that the speculation of the blatant theft of the President’s body while AF! was parked at Love Field has already been debunked by the testimony of those directly involved in placing the casket on the plane and remaining with it, there is scant chance that anything relevant to a criminal investigation would be heard on those tapes.

        That which one would hear are various military brass, secret service personnel and members of JFK’s staff all issuing and countermanding each other’s orders in an attempt to take care of essential details which they could have and should have coordinated better among themselves.

        But the fact was that many of these individuals simply gravitated to what they new best — taking charge and issuing orders.

        There need be no other explanation, sinister or otherwise, for these communications.

        • Dan says:

          I think you are missing the point that SAM 26000 could handle three separate radio conversations simultaneously, so that there might be three times 2 hours and 12 minutes of such transmissions. We know from Gen. Clifton’s tape that material was edited out of the tape found at the LBJ Library. I will not speculate on what else might have been edited out.

      • Photon says:

        I am surprised that the first paragraph of “Angel is Airborne” hasn’t sent everybody into an orgy of speculation about LBJ planning to kill JFK.
        I thought the Martin’s Tavern story was more interesting.

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