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Unfortunately, Dana Milbank has gone ‘full Grassy Knoll’

Dana Milbank

Dana Milbank, pundit

This morning I was swimming in the warm liberal bath that is the daily Washington Post. I was thoroughly enjoying Dana Milbank’s take down of Fox News talk show host Sean Hannity. Milbank was demolishing Hannity’s foolish claim that fellow gasbag Glenn Beck could “go to jail” for criticizing former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort. (One of the few pleasures of the 2016 presidential campaign is watching these jackasses bicker among themselves.)

Milbank quoted Beck’s unusually astute interpretation of the 1rst Amendment.
“That’s my point,” Beck replied, adding: “Donald Trump has people chanting, ‘Put them in jail, put them in jail,’ about the press. When is someone’s opinion on a public figure something that is jail-worthy and not First Amendment protected?”
“Such a question,” Milbank went on, “might have troubled Hannity during those occasions when he fancied himself a journalist over the years. Instead, he has gone full Grassy Knollin a manner reminiscent of Beck…”

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21 JFK cops who heard a grassy knoll shot

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A cop runs toward the grassy knoll on November 22.

Strange but true:

At least two dozen, and perhaps as many as four dozen, of the witnesses to the assassination of President Kennedy in November 1963 thought at least one gunshot came from in front of the presidential motorcade, a claim rejected by the Warren Commission and most U.S. news organizations..

Richard Charnin has proposed a statistical proof of a shot from the front.

Another way to think about the matter is to review the eyewitness accounts, especially those of people with crime scene training.

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Dallas police chief Jesse Curry on the origin of the shots

(H/T Tree Frog)

 

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How many Dealey Plaza witnesses said they heard shots from multiple locations?

Where did the shots come from?Mike from California asks a pertinent question:

“How many witnesses [of the assassination of President John F. Kennedy] said they heard shots from multiple locations?”

There are couple of different ways to answer that question.

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Missing witnesses: two African-Americans on the grassy knoll

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This photo, taken about 30 seconds after the assassination of JFK, shows a Dallas policeman running toward the so-called “grassy knoll” where two young black people were having lunch.

A half-century ago, two young black people in Dallas found themselves eyewitnesses to the assassination of President John F. Kennedy — yet their voices have never been heard. Indeed, a half century later, even their names are unknown.

This young man and woman were sitting on the spot famously dubbed “the grassy knoll” on November 22, 1963. They had a front row seat for a key moment in 20th century U.S. history: the murder of a popular liberal president.

 

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‘At least two of the shots…came from behind me’

“I have read the Warren Commission Report in its entirety and dozens of other books as well, I am sorry to say the only thing I am absolutely sure of today is that at least two of the shots fired that day in Dealey Plaza came from behind where I stood on the knoll, not from the book depository.”

–Cheryl McKinnon,a journalism major who witnessed the assassination of President Kennedy. McKinnon went on to become a newspaper reporter for the San Diego Star News. Read more

Crowdsourcing JFK: Fake Secret Service agents on the grassy knoll?

“Was there a fake Secret Service agent on the grassy knoll?” a reader inquires
This headline from the Dallas Morning News in 1978 provides one answer.

Response to Charnin: the grassy knoll probability problem

Regarding Richard Charnin’s posited mathematical probability of a shot from the grassy knoll, a reader writes:

“By way of background, my undergrad degree is in electrical engineering. I have 31 semester hours of college math, including a course in probability and statistics.

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Is there mathematical proof of a grassy knoll shooter?

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The math of tragedy

Richard Charnin, a software consultant, says yes. He made the case on his blog last week. His argument is reprinted here:

Charnin writes:

Of 121 eyewitnesses, 51 (42%) said shots came from the Grassy Knoll area, 32 from the Texas School Book Depository (TSBD), and 38 had no opinion.

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Ken O’Donnell on grassy knoll shots

“I told the FBI what I had heard [two shots from behind the grassy knoll fence], but they said it couldn’t have happened that way and that I must have been imagining things. So I testified the way they wanted me to. I just didn’t want to stir up any more pain and trouble for the family.”

– Kennedy aide Kenneth O’Donnell, quoted by House Speaker Thomas P. “Tip” O’Neill Jr. in “Man of the House,” p. 178. O’Donnell was riding in the Secret Service follow-up car with Dave Powers, who was present and told O’Neill he had the same recollection.

Fact check: historian Ragone errs on grassy knoll testimony

“There was no contemporaneous account of people who were there that there was a gunman on the grassy knoll,” presidential historian Nick Ragone told CNN’s Erin Burnett on Friday.

That statement is inaccurate. In fact, as JFK Facts has documented, there were 21 law enforcement officers on the scene who thought a gunshot had come from the area in front of JFK’s limousine.

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Fact check: WSJ errs on the ‘grassy knoll’

In her story today on the 50th anniversary of the assassination of President John F. Kennedy, WSJ reporter Ana Campoy makes a common mistake that deprives readers of needed context and detail. Read more

Dale Myers v. Max Holland on the first shot

In JFK Files: Holland’s Magic Bullet, Dale Myers critiques Max Holland’s recent writing on the first gunshot fired President Kennedy’s motorcade. Holland has argued that the first shot grazed the arm of a lamp post and missed the motorcade, hit a curb and injured bystander James Tague.

In characteristically sharp language, Meyers finds Holland’s version wanting in evidence and logic. Myers argues for the Warren Commission’s version of the gunfire.

JFK Facts contributor Pat Speer responded to Holland’s theory last week.

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The RealClearPolitics polemic on Castro and JFK

The death of Fidel Castro continues to revive memories of and debate about JFK’s assassination.

This RealClearPolitics take on Castro and the Kennedy Assassination falters when author James Piereson asserts

Oswald’s motives in shooting President Kennedy were almost certainly linked to his desire to block Kennedy’s campaign to assassinate Castro or to overthrow his government.

There is little evidence to support this claim.

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Stephen Hunter goes ballistic: ‘The Third Bullet’ rethinks the JFK story

Bob Lee Swagger cracks the case.

Stephen Hunter is the cleverest JFK assassination conspiracy theorist to come along in many a year, so clever that few of his fellow theorists have even noticed that he is one.

In his latest novel, “The Third Bullet,” Hunter pulls off a an authorly act of legerdemain: he dresses up a rigorous reading of the forensic evidence about the assassination fo President John F. Kennedy on November 22, 1963, in the guise of an international shoot ’em up thriller.

The trail of adventure runs from Baltimore to Moscow to Dallas as Hunter’s creaky alter ego Bob Lee Swagger, a humble soldier of fortune who packs a mean pistol, solves the crime of the century while chatting up old buddies and twitching for a drink.  Read more